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Tuesday, May 6, 2008

Hateful Things Pastors Say – Focus on John Hagee, Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell

Hateful things Pastors Say – From the Religious Right

With all the controversy over Jeremiah Wright, I thought I’d include a few choice remarks made by politically active pastors and ministers from the other side of the political spectrum. I doubt this would be reported on any cable news network, fired up and obsessed as they are with Rev Wright. So I will relay this information that I found on other sites. To me it says very plainly why we have the expectation of a distinct and undeniable separation between Church and State.
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John Hagee, from a 2006 interview with Terry Gross on NPR.
Source: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/02/28/hagee/

On Islam:

TG: If you use the Bible as the basis for policy, is there any room for compromise? And if you use the bible as the basis for policy, should Muslims use the Koran as the basis for their policy, and then again, what possible basis is there for compromise at that point?

JH: There is really no room for compromise between radical Islam –

TG: I'm not talking about radical Islam. I'm just talking about Islam in general.

JH: Well Islam in general -- those who live by the Koran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.

On Hurricane Katrina:

JH: All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.

The newspaper carried the story in our local area, that was not carried nationally, that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it would was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other gay pride parades.

So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the Day of Judgment, and I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.


I would suggest you go to the website: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/02/28/hagee/
and
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=110359
for a look at how Catholics view John Hagee.

You can find a wealth in information on these and other sites, information, facts and opinions you might otherwise not see in the mainstream news. Whether or not you agree with the political opinions expressed on these sites, it is hard to dismiss the many hateful, even un-American comments religious-right ministers have uttered and gotten away with. What is fair for one is fair for all, Right, Left, Democrat, and Republican.

And what of Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell? Well, they also had their moments, unpatriotic, un-American moments, in my humble opinion. Here is one conversation they had in a Partial transcript of comments from the September 13, 2001 telecast of the 700 Club:

“JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters -- the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats -- what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact -- if, in fact -- God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.

JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well yes.

JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system.

JERRY FALWELL: Pat, did you notice yesterday the ACLU and all the Christ-haters, People For the American Way, NOW, etc. were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress as they went out on the steps and called out on to God in prayer and sang "God Bless America" and said "let the ACLU be hanged". In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time - calling upon God. ~~~

PAT ROBERTSON: > Amen”


To me, it sounds as if they are saying America is damned because of the actions of some of its citizens. Now I ask you, how far is that from Rev. Wright’s statement that America is damned because of the actions of some of its citizens? Same effect, different causes, in my understanding.

Now mind you, I do not agree 100% with anything any of these fellows say. I do agree that if we do not solve the racial divide that still splits America into angry sections, we will be in trouble. I also agree that America should honor its traditional roots. I am a Christian and I believe in God. However, to use God’s Name for political purposes strikes me as blasphemy. If God is in charge, then why are Robertson and Falwell, and Hagee and others, trying to force a political solution? I don’t understand their lack of faith in God’s ability to bring about the changes He wants for the world.


Also check out the source of this information on Robertson and Falwell:
http://www.actupny.org/YELL/falwell.html
There you will find many more outrageous statements made in the Name of God

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